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by Moonwood the Hare
Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

It's bloody hard pinning you down on what you actually believe in Moon. So far you have told me that you don't believe in the Divine Command Theory, The Moral Argument, that God is good or God is right. You don't link objective moral values to your god that exclude all other gods. You have said tha...
by Moonwood the Hare
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

It would if you are trying to make points that God is good or God is right. Right and good are meaningless if you are saying that they are a mirror of God's nature. You are then saying that God is good or right as he is himself. So if I were saying something I have not said you would have a problem...
by Moonwood the Hare
Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

It's incoherent if you think that God exists. How could God give a moral law if he doesn't exist? Okay, I see the problem here. If you and I contradict each other then we are in disagreement. So I may think God exists and you may think he does not. That does not mean that what either of us says is ...
by Moonwood the Hare
Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

It is you that has this confused (probably on purpose as you seem to do when you get called out). You said "God is not conceived as being literally a manufacturer but rather a creator." I said: "There is no evidence for that conception" in which I was correct in saying that there is no evidence for...
by Moonwood the Hare
Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

I'm not an evidentialist. Well that's convenient when there's no evidence. There is no connection at all between their being evidence for a concept and that concept being coherent. You have charged religion with being incoherent and then said a lack of evidence supports this charge. I would say thi...
by Moonwood the Hare
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

God is not conceived as being literally a manufacturer but rather a creator. There is no evidence for that conception and even if there was there is nothing to compare what an uncreated universe would look like. There is evidence what an uncreated water bottle would look like as there are plenty of...
by Moonwood the Hare
Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Ok, let's say I agree with you that God is the manufacturer and we will compare him with the manufacture of bottled water for example. The water bottle may be used for numerous reasons. Either the water bottle manufacturer has good reasons for his instructions or he does not. If he does, then those...
by Moonwood the Hare
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

See: https://spot.colorado.edu/~morristo/DoesGodGround.pdf Either God has good reasons for his commands or he does not. If he does, then those reasons (and not God’s commands) are the ultimate ground of moral obligation. If he does not have good reasons, then his commands are completely arbitrary a...
by Moonwood the Hare
Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

I must admit that I think I agree more with SEG than Og on this one. As I have pointed out morals are directives not objects. I thought this may be up your alley Moon, glad you have joined the discussion. Would you also agree that features of a moral system include it being public with everyone kno...
by Moonwood the Hare
Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 471
Views: 5627

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

In speaking of a moral natural law I am asserting that the universe is shaped such that moral people tend to be rewarded and immoral people tend to be punished. I am asserting this as apart of the shape of the universe, that is, "Whatsoever a man shall sow, that shall he also reap." Not really. Oft...