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by captain howdy
Wed May 22, 2019 1:04 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

So, this is as good a place as any to wrap up another matter: I have just posted my last bit on Carrier's OHJ book, and I trust that SEG will shortly post his conclusion on Lewis, if he has not already. Based on these, I submit the following survey for the voluntary participation of those who follo...
by captain howdy
Sat May 18, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Og3 wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 7:50 pm
Thank you for your time and for your honest debate. I would invite you to take a peek in the C.S. Lewis thread, though, as Lewis has just said some things that are very interesting and pertinent to the points here.
Thank you too. You’ve been gracious throughout
by captain howdy
Sat May 18, 2019 3:48 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

I think we've come to an impasse, then. The way out of the argument isn’t to talk about purpose. The way out of the argument is to show how gratuitous evil and an omnibenevolent God can somehow coexist. You can’t spin or BS your way out of it. Until you can do that you have lost this exchange. Any ...
by captain howdy
Fri May 17, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Sorry---Trying to edit but ended up double posting
by captain howdy
Fri May 17, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

I think we've come to an impasse, then. The way out of the argument isn’t to talk about purpose. The way out of the argument is to show how gratuitous evil and an omnibenevolent God can somehow coexist. You can’t spin or BS your way out of it. Until you can square that circle you have lost this exc...
by captain howdy
Fri May 17, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

I think we've come to an impasse, then. The way out of the argument isn’t to talk about purpose. The way out of the argument is to show how gratuitous evil and an omnibenevolent God can somehow coexist. You can’t spin or BS your way out of it. Until you can do that you have lost this exchange. Any ...
by captain howdy
Fri May 17, 2019 2:43 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

When I (or Moonwood, or someone else) asks you to lay aside emotion and deal with the logic, you simply call it "sophistry" and return to the appeal to the emotions. No one denies that the emotional impact is real. But you can't say that an argument is unanswerable and then refuse to deal with the ...
by captain howdy
Thu May 16, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Hi again Moonwood and 0g3 both. I’m going to pool my responses to both of you since you’re both arguing along similar lines. The heart of the evidential problem is that there is an inherent contradiction between the existence of gratuitous evil and the existence of an omnibenevolent God. You guys r...
by captain howdy
Thu May 16, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Okay, so their lives have purpose. What is that purpose, and where did it come from? You say that it came from their parents. Okay, and where did their parents get that purpose, and where did the parents' purpose come from, and... See, we're talking about something more than just the biological dri...
by captain howdy
Wed May 15, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: How do we approach a new proposition?
Replies: 673
Views: 12674

Re: How do we approach a new proposition?

Hi again Moonwood and 0g3 both. I’m going to pool my responses to both of you since you’re both arguing along similar lines. The heart of the evidential problem is that there is an inherent contradiction between the existence of gratuitous evil and the existence of an omnibenevolent God. You guys r...