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by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

The industrial revolution, the renaisance and the crown are all concepts. They are representations of something else. They don't exist in their own right. If you say the snake was only a symbol, it means it didn't exist in it's own right too. Ex Cardinal George Pell (currently in prison as a convict...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

Whoever thinks there was literally a talking snake can read what I just told you. ...and that's the problem. Who is correct, those who think that the snake is an actual snake, or people like Moonward and you that think that it was made up? Just to be clear no one said anything about it being made u...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

This is true of every other method, a group of people using reason and evidence can also disagree. If this creates a problem for faith having a role in determining truth it creates a problem for all other methods. It's a non starter as an argument. Yes, using reason and evidence people can also dis...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him
Replies: 62
Views: 4360

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Give one example besides the Devil of an angel exercising its free will and sinning. Lucifer (Satan) seduced the less attentive among his angel companions, and they chose to rebel with him against God. I don't have names... Yes, of course you don't. Guess why? I don't have to guess, I know why, whi...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Miracle on the Mountain.
Replies: 50
Views: 5890

Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

Recap: You've gone from calling Luke's experience luck, to a lie, to the result of a mental illness, and now to ordinary. You've been throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick and none have. All of my explanations have more merit and are much more credible... And, yet, you abandoned eac...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Miracle on the Mountain.
Replies: 50
Views: 5890

Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

Recap: You've gone from calling Luke's experience luck, a lie, the result of a mental illness, and now ordinary. You've been throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick and none have. All of my explanations have more merit and are much more credible than you seeking an immature supernatur...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:33 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

So personally I doubt that the writer of Genesis was specificaly thinking of Satan but when later believers look back, they say 'Ah yes, that thing you were trying to describe, that is an aspect of the thing we now call Satan.' Yes, I doubt it too. Otherwise it would be written somewhere in the res...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him
Replies: 62
Views: 4360

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

I don't have names, Yes, of course you don't. Guess why? And, I don't know exactly how much longer they remained in Heaven after they rebelled, but I can say it wouldn't make sense for them to have lingered. Why not? What's a couple of weeks, months or years compared to eternity? Why would it matte...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:11 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

The snake is clearly symbolic and there is nothing in the text that suggests to me that we need to know whether a snake spoke or not in order to understand the story. Cool, I get that. If the snake was symbolic, then for the same reasons that you have pointed out, Christ's death on the cross could ...
by SEG
Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:06 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth
Replies: 355
Views: 24634

Re: Why Faith Isn't a Reliable Pathway to Determine the Truth

Please show me the maths. YOU tell me the maths out of these jumbled numbers! What makes you think that YOU are correct and other vast numbers of Christians have got it wrong? This tells me that that faith is a terrible mechanism to use to determine the truth. You said that in the case of a talking...