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by Moonwood the Hare
Wed May 30, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

It is still lowering yourself and surrendering. You are correct, I cannot see the difference between acknowledging the superiority of another and being in a master slave relationship.Whether it is kneeling and praying with your hands clasped or prostrating. It is grovelling, plain and simple. I'm s...
by Moonwood the Hare
Wed May 30, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: The History of Biblical Literalism
Replies: 1
Views: 453

Re: The History of Biblical Literalism

The answer as far as I am concerned is that it is not straightforward. It depends what you mean by literalism. The Greeks first used this term. They had two kinds of literature to deal with the writings of the philosophers like Plato and Aristotle and the writings of the poets like Homer. For the ph...
by Moonwood the Hare
Tue May 29, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Question For Christians
Replies: 110
Views: 9442

Re: Question For Christians

And here are a few random thoughts of mine on this: At present the mechanisms for dealing with abuse exist and are reasonably effective. Historically these mechanisms did not exist,abuse was not talked about it and people did not know how to deal with it hence things got pushed under the carpet. One...
by Moonwood the Hare
Tue May 29, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Question For Christians
Replies: 110
Views: 9442

Re: Question For Christians

Well here's a coincidence. A letter on safeguarding has just been sent to me from our local bishop. I think it came to me because of some previous role in safeguarding. It's several pages long and tells me the diocese is working with this organisation https://www.ccpas.co.uk . Please feel free to ta...
by Moonwood the Hare
Mon May 28, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

Buddhists don't need a personal god to be subservient by praying with their hands clasped. Are you saying that when they pray, bow down to the floor in front of an idol that they aren't being subservient? That's what it looks like to me. When you pray yourself, do you see yourself as being equal or...
by Moonwood the Hare
Sun May 27, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

It wasn't dictated by any scripture, it was dictated by humans. This doesn't seem to me to actually mean anything. It means praying wasn't ordered by any divine authority. Nowhere in the Bible is there a direction to pray. Humans were subjugating themselves by what they have learned from other huma...
by Moonwood the Hare
Fri May 25, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

The article you link to clearly distinguishes between assimilation and syncretism. Yes, but what is your point? My point is that the act of praying of an earlier civilisation got assimilated or fused with Christianity and other religions. You think this trivially obvious statement is some kind of p...
by Moonwood the Hare
Fri May 25, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

Of course having unique features or being special doesn't make it true. See this article on religious syncretism , ,especially where it quotes historian Yuval Noah Harari arguing in his book Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind (2014) that syncretism is pervasive in Christianity, saying that "In f...
by Moonwood the Hare
Fri May 25, 2018 7:02 am
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

Definition of a bore: a person who states the obvious and then proceeds to explain it.
by Moonwood the Hare
Thu May 24, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Discussion forum
Topic: Praying, the ultimate subordination
Replies: 48
Views: 6594

Re: Praying, the ultimate subordination

I used it as it was coming from a Christian perspective and laid out the argument pretty plainly. If you want me to show you how religions evolve using qualified historians, there are plenty to draw from. I thought most educated people would know this already. Or do you think that your religion is ...