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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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SEG wrote:Who do you think owned this mysterious voice? Why?
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:This particular circumstance was miraculous for reasons explained.
Nope, that doesn't fly. It has to be extraordinary and not explicable by natural or scientific laws.
How was our rescue not extraordinary, and explicable by natural, or scientific laws? And, please give something resembling an actual explanation, and don't just say ''science and natural law explains it", as if that ends the conversation.
SEG wrote:Co-incidence. You two got lucky. It happens. Big deal.
It was luck that guided our rescuer, Luke, at the behest of a mysterious voice, to suddenly go out of his way towards an unfamiliar area, turn onto the right trail that was difficult for his car to drive on, then keep driving until directly below us? And, coincidentally, the voice told him to wait there? I suppose it must've been some coincidence involving an otherwise unknown psychosis Luke was suffering that made him hear this voice, that just so happened to direct him to our exact, remote location? Additionally, despite all that extraordinary luck, it must've just been bad luck the forest rangers and others weren't able to find us, and so it came down to this one possible schizophrenic?

Lol, since you say luckcoincidencedidit, how are those explicable by natural, or scientific laws in this case? This is my 7th time asking. So, if you don't have an explanation just say so.
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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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Claire wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:18 am
You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
Premise One: If a compassionate God exists, then he would do things just as a compassionate person would.
Premise Two: God doesn't do things as a compassionate person would.
Conclusion: Therefore, a compassionate God does not exist.

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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:Who do you think owned this mysterious voice? Why?
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
"He that keepeth his mouth and his tongue, keepeth his soul from distress" -- Prov. 21:23

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Claire wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:56 am
However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
I don't know I wasn't there. What is your explanation if you understand what happened?
Premise One: If a compassionate God exists, then he would do things just as a compassionate person would.
Premise Two: God doesn't do things as a compassionate person would.
Conclusion: Therefore, a compassionate God does not exist.

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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:Who do you think owned this mysterious voice? Why?
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
I don't know I wasn't there.
Yet, you claim to know what it wasn't, and know luck was involved, even though you weren't there, lol. So, which do you think is more likely? Mental illness or a lie? And, either way, mixed with extraordinary luck. I suppose there was also some bad luck involved because we weren't found by the park rangers and others out looking for us?
SEG wrote:What is your explanation if you understand what happened?
Already addressed.
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Remind me
Premise One: If a compassionate God exists, then he would do things just as a compassionate person would.
Premise Two: God doesn't do things as a compassionate person would.
Conclusion: Therefore, a compassionate God does not exist.

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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:Who do you think owned this mysterious voice? Why?
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
I don't know I wasn't there.
Yet, you know luck was involved, even though you weren't there, lol. So, which do you think is more likely? Was the voice Luke heard a symptom of mental illness? Or, was he lying?
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:What is your explanation if you understand what happened?
Already addressed.
Remind me
Have we been talking in person? Read my posts.
"He that keepeth his mouth and his tongue, keepeth his soul from distress" -- Prov. 21:23

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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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Claire wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:40 pm
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
I don't know I wasn't there.
Yet, you know luck was involved, even though you weren't there, lol. So, which do you think is more likely? Was the voice Luke heard a symptom of mental illness? Or, was he lying?
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
Already addressed.
Remind me
Have we been talking in person? Read my posts.
I did, none the wiser. Please explain.
Premise One: If a compassionate God exists, then he would do things just as a compassionate person would.
Premise Two: God doesn't do things as a compassionate person would.
Conclusion: Therefore, a compassionate God does not exist.

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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:What is your explanation if you understand what happened?
Already addressed.
Remind me
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:Have we been talking in person? Read my posts.
I did, none the wiser. Please explain.
Clearly you didn't.
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Re: Miracle on the Mountain.

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Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:This particular circumstance was miraculous for reasons explained.
Nope, that doesn't fly. It has to be extraordinary and not explicable by natural or scientific laws.
How was our rescue not extraordinary, and explicable by natural, or scientific laws? And, please give something resembling an actual explanation, and don't just say ''science and natural law explains it", as if that ends the conversation.
SEG wrote:Co-incidence. You two got lucky. It happens. Big deal.
Lol, since you say luckdidit, how is that explicable by natural, or scientific laws in this case?
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:Who do you think owned this mysterious voice? Why?
I'm not our rescuer, Luke, who claimed to have been guided to us. So, if you're looking to challenge the source of that guidance, it's possible my thought may differ from his, therefore any criticism might be based on a false assumption of his position.

For the purpose of this conversation, I think it's more important for you to offer your explanation. Was it a symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying? You say I'm gullible, so there must be reason for saying that, right?
Correct. You reach for fantasy when you don't understand strange things happening.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:However, never did I not understand. And, since you somehow know what the source of the voice wasn't, what was? A symptom of mental disorder? Was Luke lying?
I don't know I wasn't there.
Yet, you know luck was involved, even though you weren't there, lol. So, was the voice Luke heard a symptom of mental illness? Or, was he lying? Which do you think is more likely?
"He that keepeth his mouth and his tongue, keepeth his soul from distress" -- Prov. 21:23

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