Lucifer (Satan) was an angel, and as I said, God does respect his free will, just as He does of other angels, which means He doesn't violate it. And, there were many angels who chose to, and chose not to follow Satan.SEG wrote:Why doesn't he respect the free will of angels and let them commit sin?Claire wrote:In Rev. 20, John is describing a revelation of the future. There's more than one interpretation of this chapter, so if you're genuinely interested, you should first take the time to familiarize yourself with them.SEG wrote:Why would God imprison/release Satan instead of killing him?
And, if you think God should end Satan's existence entirely because he didn't make ideal choices, then you must think He should do the same to humans. Well, God hasn't done that to him, or you, or me, or anyone, because He respects our free will, but we won't escape justice either.
Additionally, the angel, Azariah, dictated to Maria Valtorta about Lucifer. She re-read the lesson later, meditated, and stopped short at the phrase: "Lucifer [was] not holy to the point of being all love." She expressed:
So, to help her understand, Azariah explained the following, and he goes into what we're talking about:In the sublime concept that I have of the angels, I do not succeed in grasping how a spirit such as an angel is, would have been able to have anything lacking. My amazement before the sin of the angels has always been invincible! And, no one has ever given me an explanation that persuaded me as to how some of these spiritual beings had been able to sin, [when they were] created by the perfect Will of God in a creation in which the element of 'Evil,' not yet formed, was lacking, and who were contemplating the eternal Perfection, and That alone. And, now the phrase: "not holy [to the point] of being all love", stops me, stirring up anew my: "How can that be."
Source: The Book of Azariah...I tell you that in the angels -- different in nature and perfection from all of you -- there is in the angels, as in you, free will. God has created no one a slave. In the beginning there was in creation only Order, but that Order does not exclude freedom. Rather in that Order is perfect freedom. To be exact, in such order there is not even the fear of an invasion, an intrusion, of the anarchy of other wills which could produce collusion and ruin that penetrate into the orbit, and trajectory of other beings, or created things. Thus, it was for the whole Universe, before Lucifer abused his own freedom, and with his own will put into himself the disorder of passions, so as to create disorder in that perfect Order. Had he been all love, he would have had no place in himself for anything that was not love. Instead, he had a place for arrogant pride which could be called: the disorder of the intellect.
Would God have been able to hinder this deed? Yes. But, why violate the free will of the most beautiful, most intelligent archangel? Would not He Himself, the Most Just, then have put disorder into His own ordered Thought? By no longer wanting what He had previously wanted: that is, the freedom of the archangel? God does not oppress a troubled spirit in order violently to place it in the impossibility of sinning. Lucifer's not sinning would then have had no merit. Even for us [angels] it was necessary 'to know how to want the Good', in order to continue to merit enjoying the vision of God, infinite Bliss!
As God had wanted this sublime archangel at His side in His first creative works, and wanted him to know about the future of His creation of love, so God wanted him to know the adorable, and sorrowful necessity that his sin would have imposed on God: the Incarnation and Death of a God to counterbalance the ruin from the Sin that would have been created should Lucifer not have conquered pride in himself. Love could not but speak this language. God's first annihilation is in this act of wanting to bend sweetly, gently, this proud [archangel]; and with the vision of what his pride would have imposed on God, almost imploring him not to sin, and thus bring others to sin. It was an act of love.
Lucifer, already become a Satan, took this act as fear, weakness and an insult, as a declaration of war. And he stirred up war against the Most Perfect, saying:
"You are? I also am. Whatever You made, it was for me You made it. There is no God. And, if there is a God, I am [he]. I adore myself. I detest You. I refuse to recognize as my Lord One Who does not know how to conquer me. You should not have created me so perfect if You wanted no rivals. Now I am and I am against You. Conquer me, if You can. But, I do not fear You. I, too, will create; and because of me Your Creation will tremble, for I will shake it like a shred of cloud caught by the winds. For I hate You and I want to destroy whatever is Yours, to create upon its ruins that which will be mine. I neither know nor recognize any other power outside of myself. And, I no longer adore, no longer adore, NO LONGER ADORE any other than myself."
Truly then in Creation, in all Creation, from the lowest [form] to the very depths, there was a horrendous convulsion from the horror of these sacrilegious words. A convulsion such as will not [again] be until the end of Creation. And, from it was born Hell: the kingdom of Hate.
My soul, do you understand how Evil was born? From a free will, and, being respected as such by God, from one who was not 'all love.' And, believe it: upon every fault which is committed from then on is this judgment: 'Here there is not all love.' Complete love forbids one to sin; and without any effort. He who loves does not toil to reach justice! Love carries him above all the mire and dangers, and from moment to moment purifies him from barely apparent imperfections that are still there in the last step of consummate holiness: in that state in which the spirit is so [far] developed as to be truly a king, already united by spiritual marriage to its Lord, enjoying but one step less than that which is the life of the blessed in Heaven: so much does God give Himself and reveal Himself to His blessed child.
Glory to the Father, to the Son, to the Holy Spirit.
I said God respects Satan's free will by not violating it. How are you using the word "respect"? And, as I said, Satan, like many humans, doesn't allow himself to grasp or accept Love that's God.SEG wrote:Ok, so God respects Satan. Does he love him too?Claire wrote:Those who choose to possess love can grasp and accept Love that's God. Satan, like many humans, choose not to, so they can't. And, what God respects about Satan and humans is our free will, so He won't violate it.SEG wrote:Do you think that God loves and respects Satan and regards him the same way as humans?