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Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:16 am
by Claire
God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:50 am
by SEG
Claire wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:16 am
God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:09 am
by Claire
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:45 am
by SEG
Claire wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:09 am
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.
But if they don't want to get kicked out, they can't exercise their free will! What's the use of having free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it?

This is a phoney pseudo free will! God's gift of free will to the angels is a sham!

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:02 am
by Claire
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.
SEG wrote:But if they don't want to get kicked out, they can't exercise their free will! What's the use of having free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it? This is a phoney pseudo free will! God's gift of free will to the angels is a sham!
Already addressed, and you couldn't comprehend the information, and I can't make you.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:15 pm
by SEG
Very poorly addressed, but I don't blame you. You haven't got much to work with.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:01 pm
by Claire
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:But if they don't want to get kicked out, they can't exercise their free will! What's the use of having free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it? This is a phoney pseudo free will! God's gift of free will to the angels is a sham!
Already addressed, and you couldn't comprehend the information, and I can't make you.
Very poorly addressed...
In your view because you don't understand free will, etc.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:12 pm
by SEG
Claire wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:01 pm
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
Already addressed, and you couldn't comprehend the information, and I can't make you.
Very poorly addressed...
In your view because you don't understand free will, etc.
I understand what's free and what is not free. If you have something and it's use is restricted, then it's not free.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:35 pm
by Claire
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:God gave angels and humans a free will. Using our free will isn't a sin (evil), rather we use our free will to do good or evil, and a free will isn't freedom from consequence.
Except that angels can't exercise any free will because they get kicked out, so it's not really free is it?
They can exercise their free will for reasons explained, but you can't comprehend what free will means, and I can't make you.
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:
SEG wrote:But if they don't want to get kicked out, they can't exercise their free will! What's the use of having free will if you aren't allowed to exercise it? This is a phoney pseudo free will! God's gift of free will to the angels is a sham!
Already addressed, and you couldn't comprehend the information, and I can't make you.
Very poorly addressed...
SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:In your view because you don't understand free will, etc.
I understand what's free and what is not free. If you have something and it's use is restricted, then it's not free.
I know you think you understand.

Re: God Releases Satan Instead of Killing Him

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:17 pm
by SEG
It's obviously not free.