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Re: Welcome back!

Post by SEG » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:38 pm

NHBaritone wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:22 am
SEG wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:14 pm
Hi there NHB! I think you were here before my time on the old forum, but I think you are an atheist? When you get time could you remind everyone of your life journey to being here?
Preacher's kid. Religion major in college, plus 1 year in a protestant seminary.

Textual criticism of the Bible and study of other faiths placed them all in their social context and pointed toward the culture dictation of religions. Their logical inconsistencies and magical thinking don't really stand up in the modern context. My personal integrity became interwoven with saying, "We don't know that yet" instead of "God did it."

I am also gay and was pushed away from church by the ignorant rejection of gay people and the non-acknowledgement that folks have different experiences in life. Same-sex marriage was blocked almost entirely by the church. (It's acceptability has been accompanied by the reduction in the respect given to church teachings and officials; I don't think it could have happened in any other way. Witness the referendums recently in Ireland.) Church divisions, again a reflection of culture, have convinced me that the church more closely resembles hamburger meat than "the body of Christ," with each strand more supercilious than the one it left.

Faith in my tradition was to be based on scripture, tradition, reason, and experience. Using that as a rubric, I have found that faith offers nothing more than a socially sanctioned, placebo-based panacea that filters out genuine evidence and replaces it with fairy tales.
Thanks mate, that was awesome! I never got into religion as a kid in Australia, I was too busy playing sport, having fun with my friends and reading. We just had a win over here on the question of gay marriage. Did you hear about the Cardinal Pell child sexual abuse conviction? They have made it a media gagging in Australia as he is facing more charges in March next year.
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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Lich » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:26 am

Well, I'm back. It looks like I'm a year late. I thought this place was gone and I've moved on to other forums. I'm a member of an actual debate site now. Still undefeated :). Here's a link: Debate Art

It's a place for formal debates on a myriad of topics, though I only ever participate in the religion section. My name there is BrutalTruth, if anyone decides to check it out. I'll be around here too.
Delusion is denial of reality, and reality is truth. If the truth offends you, guess what you are.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by SEG » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi Lich,
Welcome back! Could you let us all know your religious or otherwise background and your fields of interest? Which other forums are you on? I'll check out your activity on the debating forum in the meantime.
“There are no known non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any historian or other writer of the time during and shortly after Jesus's purported advent.” His so-called life was a farce.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Lich » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:50 am

SEG wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:54 pm
Hi Lich,
Welcome back! Could you let us all know your religious or otherwise background and your fields of interest? Which other forums are you on? I'll check out your activity on the debating forum in the meantime.
I'm agnostic and therefore atheist. I debate against Christianity, and theism as a whole. I only use Debate Art, other than this forum.
Delusion is denial of reality, and reality is truth. If the truth offends you, guess what you are.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by SEG » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 am

Lich wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:50 am
SEG wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:54 pm
Hi Lich,
Welcome back! Could you let us all know your religious or otherwise background and your fields of interest? Which other forums are you on? I'll check out your activity on the debating forum in the meantime.
I'm agnostic and therefore atheist. I debate against Christianity, and theism as a whole. I only use Debate Art, other than this forum.
Good to know. Moonward and Og3 will give you some tough competition.
“There are no known non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any historian or other writer of the time during and shortly after Jesus's purported advent.” His so-called life was a farce.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Lich » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:27 am

SEG wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 am
Good to know. Moonward and Og3 will give you some tough competition.
I've debated both of them before. Not much of a challenge in those areas at all.
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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Chapabel » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 pm

Lich wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:27 am
SEG wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:07 am
Good to know. Moonward and Og3 will give you some tough competition.
I've debated both of them before. Not much of a challenge in those areas at all.
Not much of a challenge? Hahaha. You're quite the little arrogant snot aren't you? I seem to remember a debate between myself and you where I beat you like a drum. Even KTR, who rejects my beliefs and hates me, said I beat you. The debate was totally lopsided in my favor. You try Og or Moonwood and you will be destroyed.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Lich » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 am

Chapabel wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 pm
Not much of a challenge? Hahaha. You're quite the little arrogant snot aren't you? I seem to remember a debate between myself and you where I beat you like a drum. Even KTR, who rejects my beliefs and hates me, said I beat you. The debate was totally lopsided in my favor. You try Og or Moonwood and you will be destroyed.
Beat me like a drum... lol either your memory is horrible, or you have delusions of grandeur. The only reason you "beat" me is because I made the stupid choice of using argumentum ad hominems, which caused people to take your side. Most of the arguments I made you didn't even respond to, and the responses you did give failed to even come close to refutation. If you'd like, I'll challenge you to another formal debate, and this time, I will have the demeanor of a machine. I'm undefeated on the debate site I use. Care to put your money where your mouth is?
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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Chapabel » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:01 am

Lich wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 am
Chapabel wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 pm
Not much of a challenge? Hahaha. You're quite the little arrogant snot aren't you? I seem to remember a debate between myself and you where I beat you like a drum. Even KTR, who rejects my beliefs and hates me, said I beat you. The debate was totally lopsided in my favor. You try Og or Moonwood and you will be destroyed.
Beat me like a drum... lol either your memory is horrible, or you have delusions of grandeur. The only reason you "beat" me is because I made the stupid choice of using argumentum ad hominems, which caused people to take your side. Most of the arguments I made you didn't even respond to, and the responses you did give failed to even come close to refutation. If you'd like, I'll challenge you to another formal debate, and this time, I will have the demeanor of a machine. I'm undefeated on the debate site I use. Care to put your money where your mouth is?
As hominem attacks were only one reason I beat you. Your arguments were foolish and your entire position was flimsy. That is why you lost. I really don’t have the time nor inclination to debate you again. I see no need in it. Win or lose neither will change our beliefs. Why don’t you try your luck with Og or Moonwood. I would enjoy watching you being dismantled.

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Re: Welcome back!

Post by Lich » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:35 am

That's what I thought. You and Claire are both nothing but a couple keyboard warriors who talk a lot of shit but won't back it up in a real debate. Unfortunate that our old debate is gone, since that means I can't show the proof. If you're unwilling to debate me, then refrain from responding to my posts.
Delusion is denial of reality, and reality is truth. If the truth offends you, guess what you are.

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