Divine Intervention?

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Claire
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Divine Intervention?

Post by Claire » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:14 am

This car was engulfed in flames on the inside, and the driver's Bible, which was on the front passenger seat, was removed unscorched. Some people say divine intervention was at play. What do you think is the explanation?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/us/car-i ... index.html

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by SEG » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:20 pm

Claire wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:14 am
This car was engulfed in flames on the inside, and the driver's Bible, which was on the front passenger seat, was removed unscorched. Some people say divine intervention was at play. What do you think is the explanation?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/us/car-i ... index.html
If there were flames on the inside of the car and the driver was still in it he would be shortly dead or suffered horrible injuries. If the Bible or any other book was inside they would eventually burn. If the man got out before the car exploded holding his Bible, both would be ok. Couldn't you figure this out by yourself?
“There are no known non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any historian or other writer of the time during and shortly after Jesus's purported advent.” His so-called life was a farce.

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by Claire » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:11 pm

SEG wrote:
Claire wrote:This car was engulfed in flames on the inside, and the driver's Bible, which was on the front passenger seat, was removed unscorched. Some people say divine intervention was at play. What do you think is the explanation?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/us/car-i ... index.html
If there were flames on the inside of the car and the driver was still in it he would be shortly dead or suffered horrible injuries. If the Bible or any other book was inside they would eventually burn. If the man got out before the car exploded holding his Bible, both would be ok. Couldn't you figure this out by yourself?
The driver was removed from the vehicle without the Bible in hand. It was after the car had been engulfed in flames, and the fire put out, vehicle described as having ended up "a total loss, in ashes", that the Bible was found in the front passenger seat, unscorched. What do you think is the explanation?

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by SEG » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:54 pm

Not enough information was given. Was the Bible in a suitcase in the front passenger seat or under anything else? I've also found books in car and structure fires that have been salvaged after complete losses of same. It's not remarkable at all.
“There are no known non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any historian or other writer of the time during and shortly after Jesus's purported advent.” His so-called life was a farce.

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by Claire » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:15 pm

SEG wrote:Not enough information was given. Was the Bible in a suitcase in the front passenger seat or under anything else? I've also found books in car and structure fires that have been salvaged after complete losses of same. It's not remarkable at all.
The Bible wasn't under or in anything on the front passenger seat, rather just on the front passenger seat. Due to the severity of the fire, which consumed the entire vehicle inside and out, and the location of the Bible within, it should've been destroyed, yet it wasn't. Any explanations to suggest?

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by SEG » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:22 am

Claire wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:15 pm
SEG wrote:Not enough information was given. Was the Bible in a suitcase in the front passenger seat or under anything else? I've also found books in car and structure fires that have been salvaged after complete losses of same. It's not remarkable at all.
The Bible wasn't under or in anything on the front passenger seat, rather just on the front passenger seat. Due to the severity of the fire, which consumed the entire vehicle inside and out, and the location of the Bible within, it should've been destroyed, yet it wasn't. Any explanations to suggest?
How do you know that The Bible wasn't under or in anything on the front passenger seat, rather just on the front passenger seat?
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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by SEG » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:31 am

Even if it was sitting by itself on the seat it's not remarkable, the Bible is a thick book and it takes a lot of sustained heat over a long time to burn it completely. Just because it was salvaged doesn't equate to gods.
“There are no known non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any historian or other writer of the time during and shortly after Jesus's purported advent.” His so-called life was a farce.

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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by Claire » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:00 am

SEG wrote:How do you know that The Bible wasn't under or in anything on the front passenger seat, rather just on the front passenger seat? Even if it was sitting by itself on the seat it's not remarkable, the Bible is a thick book and it takes a lot of sustained heat over a long time to burn it completely. Just because it was salvaged doesn't equate to gods.
If you watch the video, the claim is that it was found sitting by itself on the front passenger seat, and due to the severity of the fire, and the location of the Bible in the car, it should've been burned, yet it wasn't at all.

For this particular situation, you don't have an explanation for how that was possible, and you've ruled out divine intervention as a possibility.
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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by SEG » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:15 am

Claire wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:00 am
SEG wrote:How do you know that The Bible wasn't under or in anything on the front passenger seat, rather just on the front passenger seat? Even if it was sitting by itself on the seat it's not remarkable, the Bible is a thick book and it takes a lot of sustained heat over a long time to burn it completely. Just because it was salvaged doesn't equate to gods.
If you watch the video, the claim is that it was found sitting by itself on the front passenger seat, and due to the severity of the fire, and the location of the Bible in the car, it should've been burned, yet it wasn't at all.

For this particular situation, you don't have an explanation to explain how that was possible, and you've ruled out divine intervention as a possibility.
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Re: Divine Intervention?

Post by Claire » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:09 am

You don't have to believe divine intervention was at play in that situation, but with your refusal to even be open to divine intervention as a possibility, how can you be so sure you wouldn't dismiss your own personal interaction with God, should it happen to you?

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