Political Persuasion

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What is your political persuaion/leaning?

Conservative
1
6%
Traditionalist
0
No votes
Reactionary Radical
0
No votes
Modern Liberal
1
6%
Progressive Localist (made-up term for people who want strong government in their communities but no national influence)
0
No votes
Moderate and/or "Classical Liberal"
5
31%
Libertarian
3
19%
Socialist
6
38%
Communist
0
No votes
Absolute Monarchist and/or Police Statist
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 16

Political Persuasion

Postby Richard_C » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:31 am

I would like to take a poll asking everyone's political persuasion. I cdoose the word "persuasion" to indicate something less than ideological. I do not expect anyone to be ideological about his or her political leanings. I am not ideological, or at least I hope not.
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby JustJim » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:29 am

You left out "None of the Above". That's where I fit with your choices.

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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby Richard_C » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:42 am

JustJim wrote:You left out "None of the Above". That's where I fit with your choices.

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I could only get to 10, unfortunately. What's are some other good options?
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby Keep The Reason » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:30 pm

What are "Traditionalists"?

Traditionalism (religion)
Traditional values, those beliefs, moral codes, and mores that are passed down from generation to generation.

Traditionalist conservatism, a political philosophy of the post–World War II United States

The Traditionalist School of thought, an esoteric movement espoused by René Guénon, Frithjof Schuon et al.

Radical Traditionalism, a world view espousing traditional non-material social values

Traditionalist Catholic, a current within Roman Catholicism

Carlism, a Spanish political movement in the 19th and 20th century

The Traditionalist School (architecture), a movement in 20th century Dutch architecture

Traditionalism in sociologist Max Weber's writings, contrasted with Capitalism
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby gary_s » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:17 am

I don't know what the difference is between a modern liberal and a classic liberal. I chose classic I guess because I see government as a positive agent of change most of the time.
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby Richard_C » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:56 am

Keep The Reason wrote:What are "Traditionalists"?

Traditionalism (religion)
Traditional values, those beliefs, moral codes, and mores that are passed down from generation to generation.

Traditionalist conservatism, a political philosophy of the post–World War II United States

The Traditionalist School of thought, an esoteric movement espoused by René Guénon, Frithjof Schuon et al.

Radical Traditionalism, a world view espousing traditional non-material social values

Traditionalist Catholic, a current within Roman Catholicism

Carlism, a Spanish political movement in the 19th and 20th century

The Traditionalist School (architecture), a movement in 20th century Dutch architecture

Traditionalism in sociologist Max Weber's writings, contrasted with Capitalism
I suppose I should have at least clarified that this was about the United States's traditions. I think those basic traditions also apply to Western Europe. The difference I had in mind between traditionalism and conservatism was that the former was more radical and "stuck on" their traditions, a opposed to conservatism's occasional movement away from tradition. "Reactionary radical," though, would be about the same thing, so I guess I split up the options too much.
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby Richard_C » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:09 am

gary_s wrote:I don't know what the difference is between a modern liberal and a classic liberal. I chose classic I guess because I see government as a positive agent of change most of the time.
See the page on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberal.

Classical liberals are more for limited government than modern liberals. They tend to be in favor of market freedom and constitutionalism, like modern conservatives, but are also big on civil liberties and, possibly, change. Moderates are different, because they tend to be more fiscally conservative but also in favor of more regulations (such as Mayor Michael Bloombeg's effort to eliminate large sodas in New York). I put "classical liberals" with moderates, instead of conservatives, because of the greater acceptance of change they might have, the implication of fiscal conservatism to smaller government and the encouragement of civil liberties.
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Re: Political Persuasion

Postby gary_s » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:06 pm

Richard_C wrote:See the page on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberal.

Classical liberals are more for limited government than modern liberals. They tend to be in favor of market freedom and constitutionalism, like modern conservatives, but are also big on civil liberties and, possibly, change. Moderates are different, because they tend to be more fiscally conservative but also in favor of more regulations (such as Mayor Michael Bloombeg's effort to eliminate large sodas in New York). I put "classical liberals" with moderates, instead of conservatives, because of the greater acceptance of change they might have, the implication of fiscal conservatism to smaller government and the encouragement of civil liberties.


In that case, I'm definitely a modern Liberal, then. It's odd how the nature of these political movements change over time.
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