Chapabel wrote:Clare wrote:Chapabel wrote:Clare, after doing some research it seems the Catholic Church has not officially recognized the messages from Mirjana as authentic. Their official conclusion is that the visions and messages are "non constat; that is, it cannot confirm the supernatural nature of the apparitions". It looks as if you are promoting messages without approval of your faith group.
I've already researched that and the following a long time ago:In April 1991, the bishops of the former Yugoslavia determined that “on the basis of the research that has been done, it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations.On June 2015, on his way back from a day trip to Sarajevo, the capital of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Pope Francis said the Vatican had reached a conclusion, and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith would soon release a set of guidelines for the bishops.
More than a year later, no such document has been released.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/ ... age-77717/
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/07/05/ ... -new-move/
I say those who say the miracles and apparitions in Medjugorje are false are wrong.
And you base this on what? Have you personally witnessed Mary or heard her speak?
Also, the Church takes this position a lot, especially regarding visions and miracles, because they are cautious. Sometimes overly cautious. And, that's why Catholics know it's fine to believe even if the Church hasn't officially endorsed it. And, there will even be people in authority who believe it's legit, but as an organization won't make an official ruling.
To answer your question, I have no problem saying neither. Seeing with our eyes and hearing with our ears isn't the only way to see and hear what is of the Lord. After having heard and read numerous testimonies by people who experienced miracles there, read the results of various scientific testing performed on the visionaries in the middle of their ecstasy, and reading the messages from The Blessed Virgin Mary, I know in my spirit it's the Truth. Take the Bible, I haven't witnessed or heard the people mentioned in it either. But, there's a knowing in my spirit that what they saw and said is Truth.
Lastly, Simplyme asked you a question on the previous page of this thread in case you missed it.