Creationism's damage to Christianity

[Pseudonym]

An interesting YouTube video, found on Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy.

[StillSearching]

I see his point. The liraffe is funny.

[Carico]

An interesting YouTube video, found on Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy.

Sorry but it's Satan who tries to damage Christianity but even though he deceives people into believing he's succeeding, the world is going exactly as Jesus said it would so God can show His power in the end. The Pharisees also thought they damaged Christianity when they killed Christ. And they were just as wrong as the people of today are. Sorry.

[Pseudonym]

Sorry.

Apology accepted.

[Carico]

Sorry.

Apology accepted.

My sorrow is for you, not me.

[Pseudonym]

My sorrow is for you, not me.

My sorrow is for the damage that you're doing to Christianity.

[dunc289]

My sorrow is for you, not me.

My sorrow is for the damage that you're doing to Christianity.

Or did radical christianity damage Carico?

[mikedsjr]

Psuedo, How is Carico damaging Christianity? She may be brash, but she isn't saying anything untruthful.

I would say that liberal and charismatic theology is where a ton of damage is done. There you get heresies like all kinds of ways lead to God. False! There is only one way to heaven and that is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

[Pseudonym]

Psuedo, How is Carico damaging Christianity? She may be brash, but she isn't saying anything untruthful.

Denying the factual nature of evolution is untruthful. It may not be lying, but it's definitely anti-truth.

Moreover, it's extremely important. Evolution is the framework by which everything in biology, and an increasingly large amount of medicine, makes sense. It damages Christianity if Christians are seen as being unable to handle plain facts.

[tirtlegrrl]

...*ahem* number of ribs in a man... *koff koff* vegetarian cats...*koff*

[Pseudonym]

...*ahem* number of ribs in a man... *koff koff* vegetarian cats...*koff*

Quite.

Though to be fair, one or two vegans have reported that they have managed to feed their cats a vegan diet. I don't know what the cats' opinions on the matter are, however.

[mikedsjr]

Psuedo, How is Carico damaging Christianity? She may be brash, but she isn't saying anything untruthful.

Denying the factual nature of evolution is untruthful. It may not be lying, but it's definitely anti-truth.

Moreover, it's extremely important. Evolution is the framework by which everything in biology, and an increasingly large amount of medicine, makes sense. It damages Christianity if Christians are seen as being unable to handle plain facts.

denying evolution isn't untruthful or harmful to humanity. Denying Jesus Christ as the only way to heaven is harmful to people. Christianity isn't damaged by anything because the true followers of God are those called by God and those called by God will freely choose Him. And those freely choosing, because they were called by God, will strive to live the truth.

Evolution isn't the framework. God's design is the framework. DNA is the framework. Just because all creatures have DNA doesn't equate to macro-evolution. Creationism doesn't harm Christianity. I consider myself a Creationist, but I am an old earth Creationist. I don't believe in 6 day creationism

[ScottBarger]

Psuedo, How is Carico damaging Christianity? She may be brash, but she isn't saying anything untruthful.

I would say that liberal and charismatic theology is where a ton of damage is done. There you get heresies like all kinds of ways lead to God. False! There is only one way to heaven and that is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

An off-target observation:

The great hope of Christianity is not that we get to "go to heaven"

[Pseudonym]

denying evolution isn't untruthful or harmful to humanity.

In the sense that humans got along for a while before we realised where species came from, that's technically true.

Today, I think it's highly immoral to work against, and in some cases actively work against, the basis for, say, modern medicine. If the reality of evolution is denied, public health policy will be gutted.

I understand what you're saying, and I respect that you honestly think I have misplaced priorities. If, as you say, bringing the gospel to people is the most important priority, surely it's even more important not to get distracted fighting scientific facts?

[tirtlegrrl]

mikedsjr wrote: those called by God will freely choose Him.

I know we're getting into deep Calvinist theology here, but I seriously don't get how we can be "called", and also "freely choose". If God knows from before the creation who's gonna choose him, and then sets up the universe so things happen that way, the "freedom" we have is only apparent freedom. If humans actually had the "free will" most people think they do, it wouldn't be so easy to predict human behavior. How, if we are truly free to choose, are we also "born in sin"? It would seem that we are forced by design to sin. I personally think, although it's based only on self-taught science knowledge, that our choices are heavily influenced by the physical makeup of, and chemicals swimming in, our brains. I have friends whose personalities change a great deal when they're taking bi-polar meds.