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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby One16Unashamed » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:41 am

Simplyme wrote:
One16Unashamed wrote:He took the full wrath of God, that is why He sweated blood in the garden, it wasn't death, the physical pain it was the full cup of Gods wrath that terrified Him.


Was that what it was? I guess we are glad he relayed that information to you, or we would be lost.


You are lost, and the information was relayed to you. It's in the Bible if you care to read it. I think before making snide remarks about theology of Christianity you should at least try to understand it.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:05 pm

Been there, done that. This is not my first rodeo
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby One16Unashamed » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:50 pm

Simplyme wrote:Been there, done that. This is not my first rodeo


Your sarcasm exposes your ignorance on the matter. Why would you make a sarcastic remark in this forum instead of debating the theological idea of propitiation? And the OT teachings and warning of Gods wrath and what Christ knew was before Him.If you've "been there, done that and got a T-shirt to prove it?

I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:53 pm

Shit....T-shirt?

I did not get no t-shirt!
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby somecallmeTim? » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:23 pm

Simplyme wrote:Shit....T-shirt?

I did not get no t-shirt!

Simplyme, If you had "gotten" a t-shirt, would you be a Christian? ('cause I'd be happy to send you one. :D )
Was there a particular experience that changed your mind?
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Og3 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:14 am

Tim-the-Hermit wrote:It's still three days.

At the culmination of thirty years.

Do you know how annoying it is to be the smartest person in the room? To feel like you've stumbled onto the set of that Mike Judge movie, Idiocracy? Well, Jesus must have felt like that All. The. Time. I have coworkers who find it annoying to talk to an idiot for a few brief minutes. They use the phrase, "I feel like [that person] was sucking IQ points right out of my brain." And here was Jesus, who knew for a fact that 99% of the things people were talking about were idiotic -- Hey, do you think that on the other side of the world it rains up? -- and he not only endured that, but managed to love the idiots to whom He was talking.

As an exercise in precisely what I mean, find a youtube video about "Over-unity" and then try to convince the people who are commenting on the video that an over-unity device is forbidden by the second law of conservation. Then imagine 33 years of that. Then ask yourself if you would take one minute of pain to help an over-unity advocate who doesn't even get that you can't get energy from nothing.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Og3 » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:17 am

One16Unashamed wrote:
Simplyme wrote:Been there, done that. This is not my first rodeo


Your sarcasm exposes your ignorance on the matter. Why would you make a sarcastic remark in this forum instead of debating the theological idea of propitiation? And the OT teachings and warning of Gods wrath and what Christ knew was before Him.If you've "been there, done that and got a T-shirt to prove it?

I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim.

If I may, I believe that Simply is merely saying that he once followed a regimen of Christian worship, which he believes to have been a comprehensive study in all things Christian. Hence his believing that there is a T-shirt, or that it can be likened to a Rodeo, which is certainly not a parable that Christ ever used.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Simplyme » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:26 am

somecallmeTim? wrote:
Simplyme wrote:Shit....T-shirt?

I did not get no t-shirt!

Simplyme, If you had "gotten" a t-shirt, would you be a Christian? ('cause I'd be happy to send you one. :D )
Was there a particular experience that changed your mind?


Yes, Send me that t-shirt, and I will become a xtian(anything for a free t-shirt).
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Simplyme » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:28 am

I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim


Vetted the bible? I was raised in church, I was about to become a Pastor like my brother, sister, and father. Vetted the bible????? SHITTTTT
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:33 am

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I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim


Vetted the bible? I was raised in church, I was about to become a Pastor like my brother, sister, and father. Vetted the bible????? SHITTTTT




What was the belief system that you followed that allowed female pastors? What were the scripture references for the accountability or allowance for female pastors?
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:38 am

Simplyme wrote:
I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim


Vetted the bible? I was raised in church, I was about to become a Pastor like my brother, sister, and father. Vetted the bible????? SHITTTTT



Based on my limited knowledge of your view of scripture, I applaud you and thank you for not going into ministry.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Simplyme » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:38 am

Stacie Cook wrote:
Simplyme wrote:
I think you just haven't vetted the Bible and Christianity like you claim


Vetted the bible? I was raised in church, I was about to become a Pastor like my brother, sister, and father. Vetted the bible????? SHITTTTT




What was the belief system that you followed that allowed female pastors? What were the scripture references for the accountability or allowance for female pastors?


Pentecostal.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Are you against female Pastors? That would sad, but not surprising. I guess you do not follow the following verse or you would not be here, or any other female xtian poster.

1 Timothy 2:11-12 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.



* Do you not find it curious that the bible can be use to pretty much take a stand on both side of an issue?
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:44 am

I'm going to go ahead and pull out my "Context" card and lay it out on the table....

Come on now. If you were lined up to be a pastor, you'd know those are out of context.

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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:58 am

I've never been called a bible thumper, but you can now because I'm 'bout to whoop you upside the head with my bible for taking scripture out of the immediate surrounding context.

Here, Galatians is talking of The Law and the Promise. Paul was talking about being one in Christ Jesus under the promise made. We are all one in the heir according to the promise. It continues on in Galatians 4, but I stopped at the end of chp 3.

“To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one. Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Don't forget the very next line... And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.”
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Re: Jesus' really bad weekend

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:19 am

In 1 Timothy, Paul is speaking of authority in churches.
In 1 Timothy 2, Paul is speaking of women in a position of authority in church. This forum is not a place where there is position of authority in church. See below....
1 Timothy chapter 3 goes on to describe the type of person an overseer should be. ... the husband of one wife....... He must... or he may become


“First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling; likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:1-15‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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