Carbon in different forms...

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Carbon in different forms...

Postby Stacie Cook » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:01 pm

Today was grandparents day at school, so I went with my mom. Each grade gave a presentation about what they are learning. The 6th grade gave a presentation on what they are learning about carbon. Carbon is used to make pencils. In this form it is soft and useful to use for writing on things like paper. Carbon is also used to make diamonds, one of hardest and yet most beautiful substances on earth. Diamonds are made by applying high temperatures and pressures for several days or weeks. I'm sure most of you know this already, but I did not know that graphite and diamond differ only in crystal structure.
The presentation went on to say that we are like carbon. We start out like graphite but when we allow God to sculpt us through the intense trials and pressures we undergo in life, the outcome is beautiful. The presentation concluded by the children reciting James 1 that tells us that we will meet trials of various kinds. Our faith will be tested. The testing of our faith produces steadfastness. If we lack wisdom, ask God who gives generously to all without reproach. Ask in faith, with no doubting. Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.... If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
I enjoyed learning about carbon and the parallel to our walk in life.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Razor » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:30 pm

I'm just sad that the school is mixing science and religion.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:54 pm

I to am sad for the children in this school.

"Earthquakes are usually caused when rock underground suddenly breaks along a fault. This sudden release of energy causes the seismic waves that make the ground shake. When two blocks of rock or two plates are rubbing against each other, they stick a little, so God reaches out with his hands and unstick them and everything trembles"

Sad indeed.
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Stacie Cook » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:01 pm

Sorry, perhaps I should have included that the school is a classical christian based school or latin based learning system. The younger grades start with memorization, around third grade they start learning latin, around middle school they learn tools of logic and then around high school they learn tools of rhetoric- to think and speak critically.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:04 pm

Stacie Cook wrote:Sorry, perhaps I should have included that the school is a classical christian based school or latin based learning system. The younger grades start with memorization, around third grade they start learning latin, around middle school they learn tools of logic and then around high school they learn tools of rhetoric- to think and speak critically.


Tools of logic, think and speak critically? I highly doubt this considering your first post. Rhetoric is a tool used by many apologist, they confuse you with lots of big words. Word Soup.

Rhetoric - language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Why would they teach this?
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Jesus Raves » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:10 pm

I'm skeptical also, Simply, but perhaps if what Stacie says is true, then perhaps, despite the religious bullshit, this school is still better than typical government-run schools.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Stacie Cook » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Simplyme wrote:
Stacie Cook wrote:Sorry, perhaps I should have included that the school is a classical christian based school or latin based learning system. The younger grades start with memorization, around third grade they start learning latin, around middle school they learn tools of logic and then around high school they learn tools of rhetoric- to think and speak critically.


Tools of logic, think and speak critically? I highly doubt this considering your first post. Rhetoric is a tool used by many apologist, they confuse you with lots of big words. Word Soup.

Rhetoric - language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Why would they teach this?


I don't know. They just tell me what to say and I repeat it......
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:13 pm

Jesus Raves wrote:I'm skeptical also, Simply, but perhaps if what Stacie says is true, then perhaps, despite the religious bullshit, this school is still better than typical government-run schools.


Here in the States.....government run schools do not teach religion.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:13 pm

Stacie Cook wrote:
Simplyme wrote:
Stacie Cook wrote:Sorry, perhaps I should have included that the school is a classical christian based school or latin based learning system. The younger grades start with memorization, around third grade they start learning latin, around middle school they learn tools of logic and then around high school they learn tools of rhetoric- to think and speak critically.


Tools of logic, think and speak critically? I highly doubt this considering your first post. Rhetoric is a tool used by many apologist, they confuse you with lots of big words. Word Soup.

Rhetoric - language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

Why would they teach this?


I don't know. They just tell me what to say and I repeat it......


Who are "they"?
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Jesus Raves » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:51 pm

Simplyme wrote:
Jesus Raves wrote:I'm skeptical also, Simply, but perhaps if what Stacie says is true, then perhaps, despite the religious bullshit, this school is still better than typical government-run schools.


Here in the States.....government run schools do not teach religion.

Here in the States, government-run schools are not supposed to, that is correct. It's a good thing, then, that I was implying the school in question is not a government-run school. Perhaps I was not clear enough.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Stacie Cook » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:08 pm

Simplyme wrote:
Who are "they"?


I don't know. I just get a paper in the mail everyday that tells me everything to say for the day.....
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Particles » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:47 pm

Are you kidding, in the mail? In this day, you really should go paperless. :whack:
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:44 pm

Jesus Raves wrote:
Simplyme wrote:
Jesus Raves wrote:I'm skeptical also, Simply, but perhaps if what Stacie says is true, then perhaps, despite the religious bullshit, this school is still better than typical government-run schools.


Here in the States.....government run schools do not teach religion.

Here in the States, government-run schools are not supposed to, that is correct. It's a good thing, then, that I was implying the school in question is not a government-run school. Perhaps I was not clear enough.


You said, "this school is still better than typical government-run schools". Its not better because goverment run schools are not suppose to talk about religion. So how is it better?
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Simplyme » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:45 pm

Stacie Cook wrote:
Simplyme wrote:
Who are "they"?


I don't know. I just get a paper in the mail everyday that tells me everything to say for the day.....


What?!?! You get mail everyday that tells you what to say for the day? Mail you do not even know who its from? Call me confused....bewildered is more like it.
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Re: Carbon in different forms...

Postby Jesus Raves » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:49 am

Simplyme wrote:You said, "this school is still better than typical government-run schools". Its not better because goverment run schools are not suppose to talk about religion. So how is it better?

Better education in general. Perhaps the con of religious-slanted teachings is outweighed by the pro of learning basic, applicable modes of thinking--which certainly sounds better than the rote, empty memorization of the typical government-run school.
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