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Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Stacie Cook » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:03 pm

Saw this post on fb regarding the whole Starbucks cup thing.... I got a chuckle out of this....

NOTICE: Austin College IVCF was invited to a meeting concerning the New Starbucks Cup Design. As we had neither voice nor vote, but were merely there to report on the meeting. Our Observations Below-

Starbucks was going to release a new flavor of coffee called "Nativity" this season, so they invited a bunch of leaders from the various factions of Christianity to give input on which graphic should be printed on the matching holiday cups.

The Presbyterian suggested, "Peace among men on whom His favor rests," but the Arminian took issue with that and said it should read "Peace, good will toward all men."

A Wesleyan offered the text, "I feel strangely warmed," but the Presbyterian (still a little miffed) said it was irresponsible to evaluate the success of coffee without practical evidence that the coffee was producing change in the life of the one who had partaken of it.

A Dispensationalist wanted the cup to say, "Joy to the earth, the Savior reigns!" At this the Anglican threw all his papers in the floor and stormed out of the room in a huff, saying nobody who believes in the Rapture has the intellectual capacity to understand what that hymn really means.

A Pentecostal got mad because the cardboard cup sleeves were too immodest.

The Catholic spent the whole meeting telling people they couldn't understand his ideas because none of them had studied enough, and besides, his idea was a mystery you could only comprehend by faith, but if they would only emboss the images on the cups, the Starbucks logo would then intercede on their behalf to bring them into the one true coffee shop in Rome.

The Eastern Orthodox insisted that any images used must be flat, not embossed so as not to violate the second commandment.

Upon hearing the word "images" the Puritan began tossing anything with the Starbucks logo into a fire.

The representative from the Bible church wanted a series of three themed cups, labeled with three-word phrases, all starting with the same letter.

An Episcopalian spent the entire meeting arguing that there should be no distinction between light and dark coffees. "There is one caffeine, and all brews lead to it," she said.

The Emergent church representative said everybody who paid $5 for a coffee while kids were starving in the world would be going to hell anyway, if there were a hell, which there wasn't. Then he put his bare feet up on the conference table and started reading Rumi.

The Baptist didn't care what design they used, as long as nobody put wine in the cups.

The Lutheran slept through most of the meeting, and when he was elbowed in the ribs, woke with a start and asked if Starbucks had ever considered putting hot dish on the menu.

The Gothardite proposed that Starbucks start requiring women to ask permission from their husbands before they drank coffee.

In the end, the Starbucks team was so flummoxed that it decided there was only one way to make peace in the group. All the ideas that were offered were tossed, and the company chose instead... a plain red cup.

(Credit goes to Thistle and Toad Blog for this)
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Og3 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:22 pm

This all could have been avoided if the various representatives had read the one book of the Bible that is about making good coffee...

The book of He Brews.
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Ignatius Reilly » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:05 pm

"It is Christ Himself, not the Bible, who is the true Word of God. The Bible, read in the right spirit and with the guidance of good teachers, will bring us to Him. CS Lewis"

Oh my, what a delicious word salad !

I am going out on a limb here and guess that reading the Bible in the right spirit is doing so in a manner that has the approval of this vastly overrated author.

One can't help but wonder why the creator of the universe couldn't have been so accommodating to furnish us with his thoughts and instructions in a manner that didn't leave us guessing in what spirit to read his book and would spare us the trouble of sifting through the endless parade of self-appointed "teachers" that crowd our churches and street corners to figure out exactly how we need to interpret his words.

Come to think of it, am I the only one who finds it slightly suspect that the creator of heaven and earth always seems to require the assistance of poorly evolved primates to do his typing ?
I mean, He can write, right ? But apparently, carving out the ten commandments was all He could be bothered to do.

Better to dictate the rest of it to a vast array of illiterate goatherds who don't know where the sun goes at night.

What can possibly go wrong ?
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Og3 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:46 am

*yawn*

What fun watching self-appointed tree surgeons cut off the branch that they are sitting on. One should not go "out on a limb" until one knows which tree one is in.
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby mitchellmckain » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:46 pm

Og3 wrote:What fun watching self-appointed tree surgeons cut off the branch that they are sitting on. One should not go "out on a limb" until one knows which tree one is in.

Indeed. It is amazing how the self-righteous take an instance of laughing at oneself as license for ridicule. I would have thought the bad-taste in doing this was obvious.
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Ignatius Reilly » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:02 am

mitchellmckain wrote:
Og3 wrote:Indeed. It is amazing how the self-righteous take an instance of laughing at oneself as license for ridicule. I would have thought the bad-taste in doing this was obvious.



Do you think, Mitchel, that C.S. Lewis was laughing at himself when he wrote that ?
I doubt that very much.

I agree that self-righteousness isn't especially becoming. Regrettably, it's one of my many flaws. However, if one happens to be right about a certain question, one does tend to look less abrasive by virtue of offering a sound argument.
It would be easy for you to make me look like a truly unpleasant man if you would successfully counter my reasoning for coming to the obvious conclusion that your holy book, like all other holy books, is just an ordinary book written by mere mortals.

I don't blame you for not doing so, since the evidence for your, no doubt, deeply held beliefs is somewhat wanting.
Your chosen approach is the smart one, employed by apologists of Christianity ever since they were put on the defensive; in lieu of countering the substance of your opponent's argument, always complain about his tone and immediately question his motives and character.
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby mitchellmckain » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:21 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:Do you think, Mitchel, that C.S. Lewis was laughing at himself when he wrote that ?
I doubt that very much.

No. I was referring to the OP.

Ignatius Reilly wrote:I agree that self-righteousness isn't especially becoming.

It depends on the reason for it.
Your own personal subjective believe which you haven't a shred of objective evidence to support is a really lousy reason for self-righteousness, in fact, the word "intolerance" immediately comes to mind. This is the case whether your subjective beliefs are theist or atheist.

However, self-righteousness can have some very good causes, such as the objections to racism, sexism, and other forms of intolerance. The only time I have found it a little hard to take is when I see Westerners swaggering with this in the judgement of other cultures. The reason being that their own culture was neck deep in the same intolerant attitudes just a very short time ago.
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Re: Starbucks hoopla.....

Postby Aaron » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Ignatius Reilly wrote:Better to dictate the rest of it to a vast array of illiterate goatherds who don't know where the sun goes at night.

What can possibly go wrong ?


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What can go wrong? It sounds like we can become so enamored with our own intelligence that we become susceptible to not choosing our premises wisely and as a result end up at false conclusions, missing God entirely.
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