God as a Watchmaker or a Shepherd

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Re: God as a Watchmaker or a Shepherd

Postby Stacie Cook » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:33 am

How's that 80's song go?
Something like, "Everytime you go away, you take a piece of me with you..."

Well, it's like that as the kids grow and get older...
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Re: God as a Watchmaker or a Shepherd

Postby Simplyme » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:37 am

Stacie Cook wrote:How's that 80's song go?
Something like, "Everytime you go away, you take a piece of me with you..."

Well, it's like that as the kids grow and get older...


:-( Agree
I find it rather amusing, when thought of as ignorant or stupid(though I can be on many subjects). Especially by those who believe in a deity up in heaven watching our every move, and rewarding or punishing us after we have expired.
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Re: God as a Watchmaker or a Shepherd

Postby mitchellmckain » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:38 pm

Simplyme wrote:It is a shame, because we lose them a little when they are grown. They no longer rely on us. Yes, that is the goal, but this does not mean that it is not hard on us, as parents, to see them go. Not sure how this is twisted or wrong.

Why would you lose them and why would you want them to rely on you more than they do? To see them grow up and become the person they find within themselves is the most wonderful part!

Simplyme wrote:We all die, we all know that we will die, but yet we are sad when a love one dies, because we will not see this person ever again. It is a shame that they have to die. There is nothing wrong or twisted with stating, "it is a shame that we have to die".

How can you even compare it to dying????? Not growing up and remaining a child forever would be more like dying. Life is change and learning not being frozen in an unchanging state.

The irony is that for me and what I believe your analogy actually works better. When you don't believe in life after death, I can understand why you would see death as a shame, but not why growing up is in any way similar. But for me, saying "it is shame that we have to die" is like saying "it is a shame that babies have to be born and leave the womb." But even accepting life after death, I quite agree there is sadness in death but all because of the differences NOT the similarities with growing up. You CAN see your children when they grow up and you actually get to see MORE of them -- more of what they make of themselves and more of what they can do. I believe there is more after death but it is quite true that we cannot see it.
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