Aaron wrote:whoosanightowl wrote:Can you admit that absolute truth cannot truly be known by human beings yet, and that you could possibly be wrong in your beliefs?
Chaa, thats where faith comes in right? It would be a lie to say that as a Christian I do not have doubts, that I do not sometimes wonder if I am wrong. There have been times when one of you stubborn athiests have said something that stuck in my head and have made me wonder if I had gotten it all wrong from the very beginning. I have really had to go through what I believe. But I can stand here today and honestly say that God has led me through every one of those times of doubt. Today my faith in Him is as strong as it has ever been and I take no credit. To Him be the glory. As for me being arrogant... well I realize why you would say that. However, that is the last thing I want to be. I guess I would say to you that I really do believe ever so deeply that I speak the truth. And it is because of that belief that I am writing to you now. I suppose you could call me arrogant, but I would call it the right thing to do. What is your take? If you believed the way I do as strongly as I do would it be wrong of you to not tell others about your beliefs?
Thanks Aaron for your honest reply. I appreciate that you can admit to the possibility of being wrong. I must ask though, when you were going through periods of doubt, how do you know it was God that led you through them and back into strong belief? Is it possible that you led yourself through them by reading the Bible and praying until your faith was strong again?
See, if I had strongly believed that aliens from outer space were living here on earth, but then started to doubt their existence, I could just as easily have re-convinced myself by I reading lots of convincing stories about them and even sending thought messages to them trusting they had the power to read them. And this would be especially easy to do if nearly everyone I knew honestly believed in them as well and those who didn't were thought to be in denial or something because their existence was so obvious to the rest.
Does that make sense, and if so, could that possibly have been what led you through your doubts?
I really don't think YOU are arrogant so much as your belief system which says: "If you believe in Jesus you will spend eternity with God, but if you don't, you will be eternally separated and suffering some sort of anguish". Without evidence to back up such a claim, why should anyone accept this as truth? If someone from another faith were to tell you something similar concerning their deity, would you believe it? Nobody has ever died and gone to one place or the other then come back to describe it. Near death experiences don't count because the brain is still alive and any after life beliefs are likely to surface during that time of unconsciousness making it seem real. You know how dreams can be. So we don't know if such places even exist, and my own opinion is that they don't, therefore I have no reason to fear what comes next.
So it's the religion's claim of knowing for sure, even though knowing for sure isn't possible, and then expecting people to both buy it and sell it without being able to provide any objective evidence of it---not just what someone perceives as God working in their own life. That can be credited to just about anything. Perhaps people who are in a vulnerable state psychologically, physically or emotionally may need of something to give them hope and will be more likely to accept it. But hope is not certainty. I hope my husband and children will be safe on the road today, but that does not guarantee they won't be involved in a car accident.
I guess if you honestly believe that people are going to hell who don't accept the doctrines of Christianity, Jesus' virgin birth, his miracles, his being raised from the dead, his ascension into heaven, the father, son, holy spirit, Trinity, etc., then it makes sense that you are trying to convince them to consider it.
But I think you should also be honest about the fact that you really are not completely certain of it and not call it "the truth" as though it positively is.
ps, you actually seem like a genuinely nice person.