Rian wrote:I think you have a poor understanding of love, tolerance and inclusion. Jesus certainly practiced those things - but in the right way, not in the PC-fake way. Jesus certainly speaks out against certain types of behaviors, while still demonstrating love towards the people involved (he certainly demonstrated love to the woman at the well, and also tolerance and inclusion - his disciples were amazed at how he was breaking social conventions by speaking to her - but he also spoke out against her behavior).Salwinder wrote: You might as well be on the fence about black people and those with disabilities while you're at it. Where's Jesus' message of love, tolerance and inclusion?
"Black people and those with disabilities" are that way no matter what behavior they are practicing. That comparison is just ridiculous, and as the mother of a handicapped child, it is also very offensive to me.
Scott, I've thought about the issue a lot, and the way I see it as far as the Christian community is that Jesus is very clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. I have no problem with people who think otherwise lobbying to change the laws here in the US to match what they, personally, think is right - that's their right (but I point out their hypocrisy when they seem to object to others doing the same). But as far as marriage in a Christian church - it seems very clear-cut to me that it should be between a man and a woman, and I think a big part of that is that is how marriage is also used as a picture of Christ and the church.
So it looks like there was a dropin support for gay marriage last month. I imagine we'll see it in the US fairly soon, though, but who knows? Let the people of the country decide when it comes to behaviors.
I'm sick of this. You cannot reduce homosexuality to sexual behavior. When you attack homosexuality, you are not just attacking individual, hedonistic perverts. You are attacking people's families, children included. Christians, of all people, should understand the impact of this, and there's no way to separate it from homosexuality, especially not from same-sex marriage.
EDIT: You may think it's important nevertheless, but it's still a much heavier thing to say than if you were just telling individuals to lay off the buttseckz.