tirtlegrrl wrote:So then on what basis are you telling jordan that his "redefinition" of Christianity is "no longer Christianity"? Do you have a missive from God that says "jordanws is wrong"? Do you mean Christianity as a particular group of doctrines that people squabble about, and you're taking one group's version as the norm, or Christianity the 2 billion people that call themselves Christian?
On the basis of logic and the Law of Identity.
See where jordan says this:
jordan wrote:What I'm trying to do is draw a distinction between what the scripture actually says, and the doctrine that people have built upon their understanding of scripture.
See, he's doing exactly the same thing
as those people he claims have "made a doctrine built upon their understanding of it (scripture)". What, you don't think all those other interpretations weren't justified by the people who conjured them by saying exactly the same thing jordan is saying now? (That was a rhetorical question.)
So, either his response to "what scripture really
says" is going to be nothing new (hence it will be scriptural Christianity, much like all those other endless sects), or it will be something other than scriptural Christianity.
If the former, he'll maintain salvation/belief Christianity (hence, won't be any different).
If the latter "defining" is where he lands, then by his own mode, he's redefining Christianity into something it isn't
(otherwise-- it would be scriptural Christianity). This is the Law of Identity-- either something is what it is, or it is something else, but it cannot be the same at the same time and in the same respect.
Thus, it's on the basis of his own intent to define it differently than what it is, or by his repeating the same error countless other sectarians have made, thinking "Ah, now I
have it right... Eureka!" on that basis I (and everyone else) can assess he'll fail at this.