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Polytheism and The Bible

Postby Dr Mundo » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:03 am

I think this is a very interesting take on some of the beginnings of the Bible. Also I really recommend listening to this guys Religious story, its really fascinating. This clip is about The God of Moses and Abraham and Its probable Polytheistic origins

But he also has an hour long segment breaking down how his religion has changed over the years and where he is now, Probably the most interesting religious journey I have ever heard. its well done, I Strongly recommend it to everyone. That video can be found here
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Re: Polytheism and The Bible

Postby cleve » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:21 am

Dr Mundo wrote:... this guys Religious story, its really fascinating...
..., Probably the most interesting religious journey I have ever heard...

Agree.
Well, I just don't get why the man in this video needs to burn "Religious bridges" (even though I get the impression that he feels angry about religion), especially when the journey ahead of him still has many "Religious bridges" on it. I can see why he is fearful (I would be, too, if I burnt my "religious bridges" unnecessarily). It is nearly impossible for most of us to see the probability that we could still be looking though a distorted lens in our efforts at trying to understand God.
My heart goes out to this really fine young man who would desire truth above anything else. What sad lessons we must learn.
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Re: Polytheism and The Bible

Postby Dr Mundo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:47 pm

cleve wrote:
Dr Mundo wrote:... this guys Religious story, its really fascinating...
..., Probably the most interesting religious journey I have ever heard...

Agree.
Well, I just don't get why the man in this video needs to burn "Religious bridges" (even though I get the impression that he feels angry about religion), especially when the journey ahead of him still has many "Religious bridges" on it. I can see why he is fearful (I would be, too, if I burnt my "religious bridges" unnecessarily). It is nearly impossible for most of us to see the probability that we could still be looking though a distorted lens in our efforts at trying to understand God.

Sure but even with me, I still remember to this day the fear I had of Hell when I stopped believing. His religious experience was much deeper than mine so I can imagine how much more difficult it would have been for him.
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Re: Polytheism and The Bible

Postby cleve » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:06 pm

Dr Mundo wrote: ... this guys Religious story, its really fascinating...
..., Probably the most interesting religious journey I have ever heard...

Agree.
Well, I just don't get why the man in this video needs to burn "Religious bridges" (even though I get the impression that he feels angry about religion), especially when the journey ahead of him still has many "Religious bridges" on it. I can see why he is fearful (I would be, too, if I burnt my "religious bridges" unnecessarily). It is nearly impossible for most of us to see the probability that we could still be looking though a distorted lens in our efforts at trying to understand God.
Dr Mundo wrote: Sure but even with me, I still remember to this day the fear I had of Hell when I stopped believing.

Your comment is an example of what I enjoy so much in exchanges with Atheists. Their comments have so much logic to them, as well as being sensible, because what they convey that they feel is so real and reasonable.
Dr Mundo wrote: His religious experience was much deeper than mine so I can imagine how much more difficult it would have been for him.

I hope I have interpreted the phrase "religious experience" correctly - namely, God's testing and cleansing of us from our "religious vulnerabilities" (things that all of us so desperately need to go though). As you probably already know, God alone understands the whys and ways of all religious things. He will always be God, because He loves, forgives and shows His mercy to the utmost as He works us through our "religious vulnerabilities." Situationally - through our trials - He will cleanse us as He causes us to "fall or stand" until He fulfills his ultimate purposes in us.
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Re: Polytheism and The Bible

Postby Dr Mundo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:25 pm

cleve wrote:As you probably already know, God alone understands the whys and ways of all religious things. He will always be God, because He loves, forgives and shows His mercy to the utmost as He works us through our "religious vulnerabilities." Situationally - through our trials - He will cleanse us as He causes us to "fall or stand" until He fulfills his ultimate purposes in us.
To be honest with you I don't know this. I Don't really have any reason to believe in the God of the Bible so saying these things which you attribute to him, are to me devoid of any meaning, Perhaps we may have agreed at some point in my life who knows. Things are completely different for me now. I hope you don't think it to disrespectful to think that it is a shame that you believe in this God, Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for you that you found something you can put your trust and hope for in. Its important for all of us to have something to relate to in that fashion. The reason I say I think its a shame is because of the cost that these beliefs have brought and continue to bring into peoples lives. I do hope for a day when we look at Christianity, Islam, and all the other main world religions as we look at the Greek and Roman Pantheons.
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Re: Polytheism and The Bible

Postby cleve » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:26 pm

Dr Mundo wrote:
cleve wrote:As you probably already know, God alone understands the whys and ways of all religious things. He will always be God, because He loves, forgives and shows His mercy to the utmost as He works us through our "religious vulnerabilities." Situationally - through our trials - He will cleanse us as He causes us to "fall or stand" until He fulfills his ultimate purposes in us.
To be honest with you I don't know this. I Don't really have any reason to believe in the God of the Bible so saying these things which you attribute to him, are to me devoid of any meaning, Perhaps we may have agreed at some point in my life who knows. Things are completely different for me now. I hope you don't think it to disrespectful to think that it is a shame that you believe in this God, Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for you that you found something you can put your trust and hope for in. Its important for all of us to have something to relate to in that fashion. The reason I say I think its a shame is because of the cost that these beliefs have brought and continue to bring into peoples lives. I do hope for a day when we look at Christianity, Islam, and all the other main world religions as we look at the Greek and Roman Pantheons.

Doc,
Thank you for sharing so openly. I understand the loss and cost that religion can bring to a person's life. And I think no less of you for your consideration & compassion for the suffering and losses that religion can cause other people.
Despite the losses that I have suffered and caused others, I still am 100% more happier today.
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