ReasonToFollow wrote:"KTR, make sure this Christmas you go tell everyone they're celebrating the birth of someone non-existent."
ReasonToFollow wrote:Also, KTR, you never commented on the 4 typical points Christians bring up. I gave you my reasoning as to why they bring them up.
Moonwood the Hare wrote:Well, I think Reason to Follow may well be a fake as well.
ReasonToFollow wrote:Pff this community is a joke.
Glad my 4 points showed you Christians know what they're talking about. Saying I'm a troll is the lamest excuse not to answer.
mitchellmckain wrote:KTR calling you a troll is hilarious. I have him on ignore as not even worth reading most of the time. BUT your comment on the community tells us more about your limitations than ours and I am not all that surprised that you do not feel terribly comfortable here because I am sorry to say that you posts (including this claim about your 4 points) are not quite up to the standard of most of the other contributors. That is not neccessarily a bad thing because it could mean that you can learn a lot here if you are up to the challenge. You can begin by learning not to lash out blindly at everyone and making your comments more discerning and directed at specific people.
ReasonToFollow wrote: I'm actually still in shock as to why I'm not even me but a fake now?! Where did this come from??
KTR, I think you're incredibly talented at writing concise arguments.
But how about you lose your pride and humble yourself!
The fact that you ceased to discuss because I'm a 'troll' and a 'fake' is just disgusting, childish and immature.
Every comment of yours is oozing with hate. Intimidating me is also an immature thing to do. We're here to share thoughts for Christ's sake! I'm not going to be intimidated and let you be a dictator on this forum.
What are you, 12?
I don't know much about you, but at this stage I'm not going to reply to your posts unless you continue the discussion properly.
Keep The Reason wrote:It's also odd when it comes from a Christian because Christians believe they are selected of god, and entitled to live forever and ever and ever in the glory of the most incredible being of all existence and time. I find that to be about the ultimate in pride and utter lack of humility. I mean, I'm simply about these mortal arguments, and you're about living eternally under the glorious warmth of the most almighty of Almighty's, and I'm the prideful arrogant one?
ReasonToFollow wrote:Thank you for letting me know where all this judgement is coming from. I'll accept your half-apology that you're being honest with me about how I'm coming across.
If I'm really that bad at formulating arguments, then considering you're a lot older than 12 and I'm only 20 then maybe you could help me develop my critical thinking?
.I mean I'm still growing mentally until around 22 and I've always hated English as a subject at school. Obviously that shows in my poor ability to write
I don't know if in atheism it's rational to care for others,
but I'm letting you know right now you're having a pretty negative impact on a young life. I understand if that wasn't your intention but being on the receiving end I'm telling you I felt you were out of line. Seeing as though you didn't share YOUR age I can only assume you feel embarrassed at how you've treated someone way younger than you.
I apologise on my part if I ever acted in a way that bothered you.
This really breaks my heart. The very nature of how someone is saved SHOULD make them humble. It's probably one of the first changes in that person's life as a Christian. The reason being because it is God's grace that saved us. No amount of good deeds will get you to heaven, only bowing down to God and accepting that grace. The death of Christ was for ALL. I mean what's the point of a website like this if at the end of the day there's only an elect few that go to heaven?
As for some of my arguments, I'm being dead serious about Christmas. Is it not the celebration of the birth of Christ?
I just find it so hard to believe that currently 1.5 billion Christians on this Earth were fooled by a story of a non-existent person. I can confidently say that out of those 1.5 billion there MUST be some with IQ's a lot higher than yours or mine. Yet, they celebrate the birth of humanity's #1 fictional character? I mean even Sir flipping Isaac Newton believed in God!
I guess what I've been trying to get at is that there's so much history behind the Bible that I find you need more faith to believe such a hoax got off the ground despite people dying for it (and in their hearts they knew they were dying for something that THEY MADE UP) than simply trusting the god of the Bible. I don't know if you've seen my other topic that I started about little facts of the Bible. I only just scratched the surface though. There's so much out there that told me this is genuine.
mitchellmckain wrote:I have to admit that it is quite true that compared to KTR's irrational ranting, bashing and name calling, my stern criticisms and reproof probably do count as sweetness and light. LOL! LOL! LOL!
I did not invent the issue that people believe in Jesus motivated by a desire to get eternal life, I merely cite it as the underlying motive why so many people do believe it.
In some ways it is, but it's history is anything but. It's from Saturnalia, and just a bit of research will enlighten you on what Christmas is.
The number of people who believe in something does not mean that belief is true. most of the world believed the world was flat and the sun was a burning rock and the earth was the center of existence... They were all wrong.
You think no Hindus or Moslems ever died in order to defend what they believe is "right"?
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