Take a Mississippi chill pill dude. I'm not judging you. I guess I'm now realizing that you (and maybe the others?) simply didn't like the question and didn't want to answer it and so you decided to answer a different question. That's fine. No big deal.
Take your own pill, Norton. I answered the question honestly and openly and you accuse me of answering a "different question" with your smarmy comment:
I think these answers reveal why Christians are sometimes skeptical of atheists. While I know everyone was being sincere, and I appreciate that, what I heard was: "No - I've already decided that a 'good god' isn't possible and so whatever you propose to me, I'm not going to accept it. And besides, I really don't care anyway."
Now, I've got to be real honest, there are a whole lot of very close-minded Christians. But I don't see how this kind of attitude is much different. Am I misrepresenting y'all, or is this true?
Yes, I think you are misrepresenting my post, at least. Did I really say what you accused me of? Let's just take a look, shall we?
This was the original question:
Atheists: Would you like to believe there is a good god?
Now I am not talking about the "christian" god, because that attribute of good strays to often into the realm of tyranny, violence, and hate. I'm simply asking from an objective pov, would it be a good thing to discover there really is a all good god?
I answered that given our current reality, I didn't see how a "good god" could fit and still make any sense without changing reality somehow. That disconnet is enough for me to say I don't want to believe in something that doesn't appear to be true. I also answered that I wouldn't care for a different reality, governed by a "good god" because I was happy with this reality and would not know what to expect from this different reality. IOW, I'm not sure I could know what it would look like, so I can't really say I would prefer it. If forced to answer if I would be happy to discover that a "good god" does exist in our current reality, I would say "no" because things would just make no sense at all to me. Perhaps this "good god" would be capable of explaining it in some way as to make me happy again, but that's speculation.
I feel that a question like this deserves more than a simple "yes" or "no". It's not as simple as asking if I want Coke or Pepsi. This also reflects the fact that I've given this notion a tremendous amount of thought. But, once again, you find a way to marginalize my answer, as you often do. This is typical Christian prejudice, finding fault with the answers of others simply because you disagree with them. Why can't you simply take it for what it's worth without judgment?
In fact, if we read the rest of the original post, we see that Omen asked the question because he has encountered Christians who see him as closed minded because of his atheism. His answer is different from mine and I disagree somewhat, but I don't marginalize his answer by saying that he didn't answer his own question.
The question stems from being accused quite often that I ( as an atheist myself ) "harden my heart" or "reject it out of hand because I do not want to believe". When obviously, I find the opposite to be true. I would clearly enjoy discovering proof of a real omni-benevolent god. Who wouldn't? It would be an all-good being. I think the chrsitain approaches with the idea that their specific god is actually omni-benevolent despite that attribute being highly questionable in the christian mythology.
But since I'm on a roll here, let's examine Norton's post:
It would be a wonderful thing if I discovered that Santa Clause was real and that he really did give gifts to people on Christmas Eve. That would be awesome!
OK, here's where we differ. In the reality in which I live, parents purchase the gifts their children receive on Xmas morning. So, if I discovered tomorrow that Santa Clause has always existed and has always brought toys to boys and girls, I'm going to be a little miffed. He's never brought anything to my kids, unless I miscounted the gifts on Xmas morning. And my folks admitted long ago that THEY were the ones buying all my gifts when I was a kid. So why didn't Santa bring me or my sister anything? You see how this works? Santa does not fit in our reality, so if he were suddenly found to be real, I would feel like I was living in a nightmare.
Now, it would be slightly different if a man suddenly appeared this Xmas to fill the Santa roll. He could be an alien or a man from the distant future, using vast technology to deliver toys around the globe, or just be pure magic. If he could demonstrate that he could do what he says he can do, then that wouldn't be so bad. But it would also change our reality as we know it. Parents would no longer sacrifice in order to buy nice things for their kids. Why should we when Santa will fill the order for free? Kids would begin to look up to this guy like never before. He might even hold true his warning to bad kids and thus help us out with discipline, but then he might not and do us a great disservice. People would flock to the North Pole to get a glimpse of him. A whole industry might spring up around North Pole tourism. And if Santa could exist, wouldn't that make it just as likely that elves would, too? And elves have Elven magic, don't they? And trolls couldn't be far behind, could they? Can you comprehend where I'm going on this, or is it too big a concept? Change one core element of reality and it's a different reality.