mikedsjr wrote:i wrote a response and somehow it didn't work and i will only rewrite it if you seemed to respond with your same answer from previous post. So quickly:
1. so the product of a destroyed essence of life is death. Correct? and what is essence of life from the Bible?
Sin destroys free will and thus the product of sin is death. But does this mean that those who commit a sin drop dead on the spot? No. Because death of the body is not the only kind of death spoken of in the Bible. As in Luke 9:60, people can be walking around and doing things but still be dead inside where it really counts.
The phrase "essence of life" is not in the Bible, nor is even the word "essence" used in the Bible. But neither are the words "computer" or "galaxy" and yet it is quite obvious that these exist, and you will not find anything about them in the Bible, but that does not mean that you cannot find things about them which are true.
mikedsjr wrote:2. You still haven't proven you position that sin destroys free will from the bible.
Granted. There are a very great number of things which I believe which cannot be proven. I believe that there is an irreducibly subjective aspect to reality. But I cannot prove it. I believe that the physical is not all that is real. But I cannot prove it, even assuming that the previous is correct. I believe that an spiritual being to whom we refer to as God created the universe and all living things. But I cannot prove it, even assuming that the previous is correct. I believe that the Bible is the word of God. But I cannot prove it, even assuming that the previous is correct. I believe that the doctrine of the Trinity is correct. But I cannot prove it, even assuming that previous is correct. And yes I believe that the destruction of free will is what sin is all about. But I cannot prove it, even assuming that previous is correct.
Does all this seem strange to you? I would not have thought it so strange to a Christian. BUT even if you were a scientist, I would reply that I believe that mathematics is consistent. But I cannot prove it -- not only that but Godel proved that it is impossible to prove such a thing.