NH Baritone wrote:...minuscule world view
ScottBarger wrote:Just being honest. IMHO, eliminating the divine from reality makes everything a matter of what works for me. Life then becomes a matter of bring happiness to people I care about. Without a higher morality, then there is no grounds for you to call my world view "minuscule." Besides, if a "bigger" world view doesn't work for me (ie. bring me happiness) why should I waste time developing one? I should simply do that which brings the greatest amount of happiness to myself and the people I love. Why would I EVER sacrifice the time I have with them to go on some sort of globetrotting exercise in futility?
NH Baritone wrote:Futility?
NH Baritone wrote:Other than nature itself, the only thing that has ever changed the world is human activity.
NH Baritone wrote:These are non-religious organizations and are supported by both non-believers and believers because they believe not in a divine finger stirring the human soup, but rather in human beings taking charge of stirring it ourselves.
NH Baritone wrote:Are you blind to the global interconnections that bind us all? Haven't 2 world wars, the arms race, and 9-11 taught you that what happens on the other side of the world effects you and your children?
NH Baritone wrote:Yes, Scott, if your belief in God is the only thing that allows you to notice that you live not only in a neighborhood but also on a planet, then you have a minuscule world view.
NH Baritone wrote:Scott, I need some clarification:
- Do you consider atheism at its core to be hedonistic?
- Do you consider atheists uncharitable or to have no reason to be charitable?
- When you consider the atheists you know, how well they fit into the caricature you have created for this podcast?
- In the ways that they do NOT fit into that caricature, how do you explain the poor fit?
ScottBarger wrote:NH Baritone wrote:Do you consider atheism at its core to be hedonistic?
I am not sure what atheism is at it's core, I would say maybe some version of materialism. I DO think that some brand of hedonism is a logical result of atheism. I don't mean full blown selfish pleasure regardless of consequences, but more of a "happiness in life is really the only reasonable virtue." I think that if this life is the only thing we have, then finding happiness and contentment in this life is the highest virtue and pursuit of personal happiness is very reasonable.
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