StillSearching wrote:mitchellmckain wrote:You have to have to let that go and submit yourself to Him completely.Alethia wrote:I would submit that an apostate was never a real Chiristian to begin with. He may have had an "experience" w/ God but has never really surrendered and been saved.
Can either (or both) of you explain to me exactly what it means to you to "surrender" or "submit" to God? Please feel free to move this to a new thread if you like.
mitchellmckain wrote:Salvation is a similar process but one of transformation rather than just understanding. What is critical is not how far you have come or how close to God you think you have become but rather what direction you are moving. If you are standing still then God isn't an effective force in your life at all
StillSearching wrote:I do have trouble, however, when people say that they have turned their life, or a certain difficult decision, over to God. This idea of surrendering to God's will (in terms of the events and decisions of my life) seems anathema to the idea that we were created to choose our own path. In other words, why create us with control if you expect us to surrender it back to You?
Alethia wrote:So, Mitchellmckain...... what do you think the purpose of life is? How do you view humanity in comparsion with God?
harryt wrote:Hi. I'm new on this forum and I first want to thankScott and Emery for providing a place where Christians and atheists can have civil and respectful discussions and debates. I am a Chritian and my son has embraced atheism. I have talked to him and given him every evidence and resource about God, evolution and and atheism I could find. Now it is in Gods hands. Pray that the Holy Spirit would reveal the truth to him
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