1 Thess 5:21 wrote:Test everything. Hold on to the good.
Rom 12:2 wrote:Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
2 Thess 3:10-12 wrote:10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”
11 We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12 Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat.
2 Thess 3:6-10 wrote:6 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. 10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”
Brad wrote:Thank you also, CH and Tim.
In most, but perhaps not all, of the passages we've quoted, I suppose we all realize that to separate the theological elements from the "merely" ethical components is to take the passage out of its intended context.
Brad wrote:Still, for those of us who are non-believers, we might agree that a means can still be useful to us as human beings, even if we consider the hoped-for ends (rapture, heaven, etc.) to be imaginary. For example, "Test everything. Hold to the good," separated from its theological surroundings, is a very nice summary of what many of us try to live by, isn't it? It's also a the most pithy way I can imagine to describe the scientific process. And it is also a central tenet of both the least superstitious forms of Buddhism and of Socratic style thinking, as well. And of course, it's exactly what I think should be done with the Bible altogether, but I digress...
... Are there any NT passages that anyone can refer us to, for example, that promote what we think of these days as "family values," that is, regarding healthy relationships between parents and children and/or other relatives?
How about passages directly advocating honesty or gentleness?
What about a passage promoting gratitude as a general practice (in addition to the verses that suggest giving thanks to God)?
I'm hoping we can get some more material here, then maybe we can look at our suggested passages more closely?
mitchellmckain wrote:Funny how people confuse their forgone conclusions with evidence.
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