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Postby humanguy » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:30 pm

humanguy wrote:Can you explain what you mean by "the understanding of my beliefs"?


Kestrel wrote:The information provided by my scriptural source, the bible, tested against my personal experiences.


Explain, if you don't mind, how you test the information provided by the Bible against your personal experiences.
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Re: New here.

Postby Kestrel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:05 pm

If the bible declares that loving one's enemy's is preferred over the carnal response, then I test it.
I practiced it so much that I no longer view anyone as an enemy.
I personally can attest, that it is a far and more fair way for me to live. The benefits not only effect myself,but some who I did consider my enemy, and they mine, and no longer are.
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Re: New here.

Postby humanguy » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:16 pm

Kestrel wrote:If the bible declares that loving one's enemy's is preferred over the carnal response, then I test it.
I practiced it so much that I no longer view anyone as an enemy.
I personally can attest, that it is a far and more fair way for me to live. The benefits not only effect myself,but some who I did consider my enemy, and they mine, and no longer are.


I've never been a soldier and I've never seen combat so I really don't know what it's like to have enemies. Having enemies seems quite pointless, and easy enough to avoid unless you're a member of some sort of tribe. I suppose it's al in how you view things, really.

Anyway, you're making it sound like the Bible is the only game in town where words of wisdom or words to live by are concerned. Have you not seen ideas like loving one's enemy expressed anywhere else?
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Re: New here.

Postby Kestrel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:22 pm

I have.
The bible also declares that the faith I have was an attraction that I had no choice in.
Once I accepted that statement as fact, the act of loving one's enemy, became rooted in justice for me.
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Re: New here.

Postby Kestrel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:25 pm

humanguy wrote: Anyway, you're making it sound like the Bible is the only game in town where words of wisdom or words to live by are concerned.

For me it is certainly the case.
How others choose to live, or where they choose to get their information is not my business, concern or responsibility.
When a fellow believer in christ is imposing themselves upon others I will urge them to repent. Yet that decision is theirs.
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Re: New here.

Postby humanguy » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:30 pm

Kestrel wrote:How others choose to live, or where they choose to get their information is not my business, concern or responsibility.


Well, you're going to be hearing a lot about how others choose to live and where they choose to get their information if you hang around here long enough. There are as many different ways to live, after all, as there are living human beings.

I'l see you around, Mr. K.
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Re: New here.

Postby Kestrel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:36 pm

humanguy wrote: I'l see you around, Mr. K.

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Re: New here.

Postby Spectrox War » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:13 am

Kestrel wrote:Hello.
My core beliefs are in a sovereign God and a risen Jesus Christ.
I do not consider myself a christian


Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Christians are atheist towards every other God. I just went one God further.
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Re: New here.

Postby Kestrel » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:14 am

Spectrox War wrote: Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Nope.

Jesus isn't a christian.
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Re: New here.

Postby Moonwood the Hare » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Kestrel wrote:
Spectrox War wrote: Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Nope.

Jesus isn't a christian.

Actually there was a Jewish scholar who came to believe the second and probably believed the first in some form and he never did believe that Jesus was God incarnate; can't remember the guys name though. Also I once met a Hindu who believed both those things and did believe Jesus was God incarnate; he said that was not unusual in Hinduism and speculated that at the end of things there might be more disciples of Christ among the Hindus than the Christians. His name was Prabhu Guptara.
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