mitchellmckain wrote:Peace marches, free love, communist activism, communes, pot smoking (though not excessive) are some of the highlights. Except... that they did stay out of jail and managed to hold down jobs most of their life, so I suppose that defines some limits to their liberalism.
Wow, they sound terrible! Marching for peace
? The nerve of them! Communal living, like Jesus and the apostles? Horrors of horrors!
I guess that free love thing might be a bit kinky for you--- all that dirty, dirty sex. Maybe a little Eddy Pus Wrecks going on there? And some pot smoking (but not enough to cost them their jobs-which-you-admit-they-were-able-to-hold-down-for-most-of-their-lives). The terrible, terrible pain you've endured!
I have no idea where you are getting such garbage. Nowhere from anything remotely resembling reality. THAT is for sure! Perhaps I should put the shoe on the other foot and try to psychoanalyse you and make assumptions about relationships with YOUR parents to see where this comment of YOUR came from?
You are the one who keeps bringing up your "craven" upbringing as if it's an excuse for all your biases and intolerances, as an instant example, right here:
mm wrote:Give them another shot at what? Doing that which we repeatedly tell him that they can never do? I don't even understand "harsh" and dismissive. That it is the truth seems like the end of it to me. I don't even see the relevance that you think it is "harsh" and "dismissive". Shall we pretend that something is not the truth because people might think the truth is harsh or dismissive? I don't understand that, AND I certainly don't think that most atheist would care that what they declare is harsh and dismissive, ONLY that it is the truth as they understand it. Please remember that this is the way that I was raised, after all.
MtH doesn't wave his upbringing around like some sob story we have to grant him "extra understanding" about (nor do any of us do this). So you're way off base suggesting that his psychoanalyzing you is off limits and maybe you should do the same in return to him. He doesn't invite it like you do because he doesn't bring his upbringing and his parents and what not up at all. Whereas you bring it up over and over
and you have the gall to do it in such a way that we
have to grant you some special dispensation. Yeah, right. You of all people deserve that!
For the record I couldn't give a damn how you were raised. Whatever it is that makes you into what you are is whatever it is that made you into what you are. Frankly, I'd recommend some therapy for this obsessive anger over your mom and dad, rather than spending all that time in that creepy little church you reside in, and if you have been to therapy, you might need more because you keep raising this specter over and over like it's the flag of your island nation. You've offered the illustration of a weak little child who can't overcome what his parents did to him, and it seems to inform your every move.
This is not just assumption on my part-- you share this stuff every third or fourth post -- hell, the other day you posted about being with your sister who is more like them and even that had tinges of this psychology that holds you in thrall -- to the point where I feel embarassed for you.
Not that you care about my opinion but shit, man-- get OVER it! Suck it up and grow up. And if you aren't going to get over it, stop whining about it and using it as an excuse for your antisocial behavior. That
dog not only don't hunt, it ain't even a dog.